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Post by Chad Manning on Oct 24, 2007 15:52:44 GMT -5
Pac, FYI... Rachel and Robert are both out of town, but Chris will be there and Ty is interested in filming some.
However, Adonna & I have talked and we don't wan't cake on teh couch or carpets, so if you do get gooed up, you have to stay outside, in the kitchen, or go take a shower. Also, no gooing the other guests. If there is a lot of interest in the Zombie stuff, we can take it outside or plan for a full blown Zombie party just to get some good footage.
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Post by 0 on Oct 24, 2007 16:04:27 GMT -5
However, Adonna & I have talked and we don't wan't cake on teh couch or carpets, so if you do get gooed up, you have to stay outside, in the kitchen, or go take a shower. that was the original intent with the parties at the house in Cedar Hill... and it wound up on the ceiling, the walls, the sidwalk, the driveway, cars, the brick on the house, all over the bathrooms, etc.... not to mention other guests who didn't want to get batter on their clothes. i was told not to worry, that it wouldn't stain. it did and i had to dump clothes. you seriously might want to rethink that.
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Post by Vable on Oct 24, 2007 20:57:39 GMT -5
I've heard the exact opposite as to the staining ability. But thats me. I don't have personal experience myself, only what others who've done it have said.
Though debating the point at this juncture may be a tad late... I guess we'll do our best to keep it out of things. Though, cake mix dries..and once dry is relatively stable. Aside from maybe sitting on furniture and such. Which I imagine would be a bad idea in any heavy makeup costume.
No matter, asking people to stay off the carpet/furniture while gooied seems reasonable (and obvious, but then again people will be drinking. LoL)
I'm figuring we'll try to do any zombie footage as the majority arrive, but before people get plowed. For best responsiveness. And we can have fun with the hosing off of zombied people (that would make for some fun and interesting footage all on its own) after the Projekt Quarantine stuff. Towels may be in order.. LoL. I'll bring all I have.
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Post by Rabbit on Oct 24, 2007 22:29:45 GMT -5
Eh, I'll be losing weight this weekend at a research study.
It's testing a new weight-loss drug for T-II Diabetes. And yes, it really does work. Lost 14 pounds in 3 weeks. Too much for such a short period of time, I know.
I can finally fit into my tights again!
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Post by Vable on Oct 24, 2007 23:39:21 GMT -5
Wow... reading back through the thread (last 2 pages)... I guess I missed something. Or everything.
It's a little late for me to skip out on the batter idea. At least, without me looking like a liar. But, it isn't my place to say. Just wish I'd known this wasn't going to be okay earlier.
Although, in regards to a couple of statements. I don't see how what I wear as a costume should affect what 'this' person or 'that' person wears. Wear what you will. If anyone feels they 'can't come' to a party, because someone else is doing a zombie thing... Well, hell... wow. what? I'm confused.
I'm sure...that if anyone doesn't want zombie blood on them...that people will be respectful and oblige said wishes not to zombify them. Or belongings or anything of the likes.
Though, considering the position I'm now in, I'm feeling a little put out that a perception is deciding the fate of part of the event. Hey, we don't gotta DO a zombie anything to have fun. However, that was my contribution, and I don't see how its continuance means I'm going to be seeing to it that costumes are wrecked. Nowhere did anyone say anything about mandatory costume participation.
I would imagine only consenting adults would partake in the blood-cake mix.
And if people would really skip a party because ..... sigh. NM. What does blood-cake mix have to do with whether people come or not? seriously. If you had issues with how the 'last' zombie party went, how about we talk about those instead of attacking the idea in general.
Clearly I'm being too defensive. It is true that chat is easy to take out of context. So I should probably just drop it. However, I have no recourse or means to address otherwise. I have work, school, rehearsal, research&math, wedding, party. Somewhere in there I was going to spend the money to supply the needed materials.
Now I'm in a dilemma. I've told people we'd be doing projekt quarantine filming. I need to know to what degree this is even welcome, never mind the why. If thats not going to work I need to let people know that my idea of providing costumes for those who came without, but ready is not going to be an option. If the entire thing is unwelcome, then I need to be able to explain that the plan is scrapped.
Let me be clear. (chat allowing) I'm upset at how some of the comments have been phrased. And a little upset that if there was opposition to the point of negation, I haven't been spoken with sooner. Up till tonight, I've been pushing invites and the entire thing... Knowing sooner would have saved me some pains. But thats done. Besides that, what I am NOT upset about. Hey, people have opinions. And the Manning residence is sacred to me, so if things are going to be too messy, so be it, we can figure something else out. It is the prerogative of my friends to say 'hey, we changed our minds' Thats fine. Still, I do need some answers.
I love you all, but I just don't have time to debate it. I need to know what the final cut is, so I can try to figure out who all I've invited and correct the information(z) that I had previously put out.
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Post by Chad Manning on Oct 25, 2007 8:34:27 GMT -5
OK, I was at one of teh last zombie parties. Honestly, it was a mess. I, in my drunken state, saw red on doors, walls, brick, toilets, ect. I think I even bumped (i.e. stumbled) into a wall at one point and asked someone if I could get a rag to clean it up. they said not to worry because they would have to clean the whole house the next day anyway.
As for teh cake batter, I din't have any problem with staining, and was wearing Kakhi pants (I did take my shirt off just to be safe). As soon as I got home I threw them in the wash to make sure it came out. Luckily I really didn't get much on the pants. However, the more that gets on it and the longer it stays could cause some staining. There are dyes in teh batter that make it turn red.
When dry the batter is pretty stable, but it does take a while to dry and is very "transferrable" if you bump into people and things. Even after it dries, if your sweat or get wet, it gums up again. I can understand how people would be worried about getting batter on their costumes. Especially if they put some money into it. Therefore, to respect those folks, I only ask that if you are zombified, your stay in restricted areas so you can avoid guests that don't want to get messy and just want to hang out and have a good time. A lot of people like these parties and I don't want anyone to feel like they will ruin their clothes or costume if they come. Likewise, I don't want to spend the next week cleaning cake batter off of every surface in the house. However, I know there is a group of people looking forward to the whole zombie film theme, so I want to allow that as well.
Therefore, I suggest that the zombie filming take place early in the night. We will have the batter outside and whoever wants to participate can be zombified and filmed around the house and neighborhood. Once the initial filming is done (probably by 10:00ish by my guess), the showers (there are 2) will be open for people to clean up a bit. As you get cleaned up, you can join the rest of the party down stairs. In general, the house will be off limits if you are messy, and it is my FULL expectation, that the "zombies" will respect the rest of the guests and not spread the mess as there will likely be guests from outside our normal friends group there as well.
On a side note, keep in mind what the weather has been like recently and what the forcast is for that night. It will probably be cold, so people probably won't want to be in wet cake batter outside for long.
So, the final cut: - There will be opportunity to do the zombie thing. - Zombies will be restricted as to where they can go. - Zombies will segregated from the rest of the guests. - There will be opportunity to clean up and change for zombies. - Everyone at the party will be expected to respect the other guests and thier costumes. - Everyone will have a good time! - I mean it!
Honestly, I would love for everyone to come and have fun. I will do my best to keep the zombie thing in-line and on-track, so people who participate in it will have fun, but I will also do my best to make sure they stay away from the guests that don't want to be involved. I figure that by 11:00 or so, everyone should be in full swing and having a great time.
Pac, Sol, and anyone else concerned about the mess, please do not pass just because of that, I will do everything I can to make sure that the zombie thing does not invade on your fun or the other guests that are not involved with it.
Ty and anyone into the zombie thing, you guys will get your chance to get messy and put some stuff on film. I even have a few ideas you might want to use. There are some areas in the neighborhood that would make a good scene.
If anyone has further concerns, give me a call, send me a PM, or e-mail me at chad.manning@libertymutual.com
Hope to see you all there still!
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Post by Teri on Oct 25, 2007 9:23:09 GMT -5
. . . I can finally fit into my tights again! < wolf whistle>
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Post by Vable on Oct 25, 2007 9:56:01 GMT -5
I'm not upset about worries about mess, or the need to keep things non messy.
I had this idea that holloween might have been the best time to throw a zombie theme'd party. And I'm sure that if we wanted this party to be different, all that would require is effort on our part to make sure people treated it different (IE, no sitting on furniture, or coming in the house excessively gooy.)
I'll let everyone know that the Projekt Quarantine filming is off. There are time constraints that I have to deal with, and with the negative sentiments about people being in zombie-mode I'll just skip it. That dosen't prevent normal filming if you like of course.
I realize that you said it may continue, in the time frame and means as posted above. But at this juncture, I don't feel very welcome in this endevour. And I would want support in my doings, I'll just skip it. For it to work, I'd have needed certain things. Somewhere in deciding the fate of this project, what was needed to make it work never got asked about. I thank you for having faith that we could do it, but its not going to work now. I'll manage it another time and another place.
late for work, see ya'll at the party.
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Post by abby on Oct 25, 2007 9:58:42 GMT -5
wait wait...I clearly missed all the red cake batter stuff earlier. I'm pretty sure Marshall is coming with to hang out with Kenny, and I sat on the floor for 8+ hours sewing his costume out of a pia material. I will HURT you if you wreck it before we go trick or treating next week with red crap.
*ok, just realized there was a whole 2nd page of posts on this topic while I was traveling yesterday. either way whichever happens I just want to make it clear that my son will be there with Rick well before I arrive and no matter what he says, is NOT be be gooped. I have also invited a few other friends who aren't aware of the zombie project and may not be interested in being covered in goop.
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Post by Chad Manning on Oct 25, 2007 10:34:15 GMT -5
Sorry Ty, and other zombie folks. I like the idea, but it sounds like there will be a lot of people there who have no clue or interest in the zombie thing. I know there may be other things/areas needed for the film, but time, space and other guests that have no clue of what is going on put limitations on what we can do and where we can go. Knowing how packed things can get sometimes, it would be difficult for zombies to mingle at the party without causing a mess and like most of our costume parties (halloween and otherwise), I know that people put a lot of time and money into their costume. I would still love to do the zombie thing. I had a lot of fun last time. When you get all gunked up, you really drop into zombie mode and can have a lot of fun ambling about and eating live victims. The house is staill available in a more controlled situation for filming, but with so many people around, another night might be better. Would those interested be able to come out Halloween night and do it? It would be a smaller group and just focus on the zombie film without other guests or complications.
On a side note, I do think there are some awesome shots around the neighborhood. Zombies crawling out of ditches, walking through alley ways, behind the commercial section nearby, etc. We can talk more about that later.
Also, make sure that everyone knows they are still invited to come party even if the zombie stuff isn't going off.
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Post by Chad Manning on Oct 25, 2007 10:36:39 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Abby, don't worry I'll make sure he does not get too messy before you arrive. I wouldn't want the lawful evil cleric after my a$$!
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Post by abby on Oct 25, 2007 11:49:43 GMT -5
that's right! I'll S:WP you into next year!
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Post by Teri on Oct 25, 2007 12:05:11 GMT -5
On a side note, I do think there are some awesome shots around the neighborhood. Zombies crawling out of ditches, walking through alley ways, behind the commercial section nearby, etc. YEAH, zombies assaulting that Primitive Baptist Church sign brings smile to my lips
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Post by Chad Manning on Oct 25, 2007 12:24:23 GMT -5
Maybe we can have primative zombies attack it!
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Post by 0 on Oct 25, 2007 13:04:35 GMT -5
nononono.... please no more red velvet cake mix! i *did* object back in September. as i said, i've lived through *several* of those parties and not only had my clothing destroyed, but some other domestic possesions as well. if it gets on the walls (anything non-fabric), as long as it is cleaned off in a timely fashion (like within the next 2 days). but, if it's left long enough, it can stain and need to be painted over. yeah, i was told the batter would not stain either, it's why i didn't stress too much when zombied friends hugged me and bumped into me. two of my favorite shirts were ruined, as well as the pants i was wearing. i even tried bleaching the white shirt to no avail... it is now a covered in pink splotches. with that knowledge, i didn't wear any of my favorite clothing to the next parties and did my best to avoid contact with the zombied party goers. however, that stuff transfers from chairs, counter tops, door jams, stair railings, and even the slightest brush of a zombied person. another shirt and pants ruined. after the first one, any mention of a 'zombie party' and i got stressed. the first party itself was a blast but the next day was quite another story. i did my best to support my friends after that, but my heart wasn't in it as every party brought another surprise bit of permanent destruction on my things... and i don't have a lot of money to be replacing stuff. i've asked others to come, but they heard 'zombie' and asked if this was going to be like the ones at the house in Cedar Hill. i tired to tip-toe around it, but they weren't having it. they stopped going to the Cedar Hill parties because of it and won't be going to this party either. soory, some us just don't want to bothered with destroyed clothing and batter getting everywhere at a party. it sucks when you have to hose down from a party before you go home to avoid ruining the interior of your car. i'm not saying 'don't do it! ever!'. i'm saying if you have problems with this, you might want to rethink it and realize that some people are going to get upset when their own costume and/or clothing gets ruined. chad is correct! that's something better done at city parks, areas dowtown, parking lots and garages, urban areas, or maybe at someoen's house who doesn't mind and/or is planning to clean up the mess. that would probably be much better. planning a specific night to do nothing *but* that would be the best way to get any filming done. *everyone* who arrives is planning on on getting involved and messy. no other agenda is there to take precedence over the zombie fun.
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