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Post by Chad Manning on Dec 16, 2005 9:28:39 GMT -5
Based on the experience at the last party or your experiences with similar parties/events, let me know what we can do to make things better this. I know that many of you have made suggestions directly to me, but I would appreciate it if you posted those comments here as well so that I can remember them all.
Thanks again for all of your help making these mystery parties a success!
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Post by Rabbit on Dec 16, 2005 10:29:16 GMT -5
Hey Chad,
I liked the roleplay, but I got the feeling that alot of people wished they had more to do other than roleplaying. Alot of peeps kind of wanted to play the assassin. Of course, the good thing about the party was that those, who did not want to roleplay just had fun and drank; so we should keep the atmosphere casual. It would help, though, to have a few more evil characters or the likes and perhaps a couple of default good ones, like in Mafia.
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Post by Chad Manning on Dec 16, 2005 10:58:13 GMT -5
Good idea. I will see if we can have something worked out like that. I just don't want it to get too confusing.
As for other activities, I was thinking about doing teh masks on trees thing as well as a couple of other Roman games/ traditions to fill up the night.
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Post by grant on Dec 16, 2005 11:00:38 GMT -5
I kinda agree Garrett.
While there are those who enjoy the role-play aspect of the evening, it seemed to me that more people then not (at least at the last party) were not really into it that much. I think that we all liked the murder mystery aspect of it but the role play seems a bit difficult to figure out in such a short amount of time. I would suggest keeping the roles a bit simpler and easier for non-role-players to get into and enjoy. In the guise of keeping it simple I would also suggest that when someone is killed that there not be so much detail about the death. If a murder weapon is used then it should be left at the body (for the sake of the fun of the game) if the poison was used then it is up to the players to figure it out (testing their drink and such) and a very brief description can be given of how they were killed (ie. I was stabbed in the back, I was strangled, I was bludgeoned on the head, etc.)
I would also suggest that you not assign roles before hand but rather hand them out just before the mystery starts so that you are sure that people’s rivals are all there. Also it would help to have a poster board made up that you can list everyone’s title/position so that it is easier to keep track of it all. You could even give the roles out randomly and then post up on the poster board who is who.
Hope some of this helps.
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Post by Rabbit on Dec 16, 2005 11:06:11 GMT -5
Chad, I really like the idea of having everyone assigned to kill someone. Make it to where where each person has a killer and someone they want to kill. Whenever you kill someone, you then set out to kill the person they assianged to kill, and so on. This is rather simple, and makes everyone suspicious of everyone. It turns into a game of cloak and dagger (kind of).
Grant, back me up, eh?
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Post by Chad Manning on Dec 16, 2005 11:09:10 GMT -5
The problem I see with that is that it is no longer a mystery, but rather just a hack and slash party. Everyone dies in the end like a d**ned Greek tragedy! Wait a minute...
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Post by Rabbit on Dec 16, 2005 11:11:39 GMT -5
Well, I guess that's true.
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Post by Chad Manning on Dec 16, 2005 11:21:40 GMT -5
However, we can make special rules for killing your prime enemy. That way everyone can kill if they can pull it off, but teh assassin has more freedom to do what they want. I would be interested in what some of teh other think about your suggestion.
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Post by grant on Dec 16, 2005 11:30:09 GMT -5
I would agree that the round robin game is quite fun...I have done it on many different scales.
Though there are some difficulties with doing it in a single night.
Here are the general rules that I have found are in all (or most) versions of this game:
One person must moderate the game; this person will not be playing and will assign who has to kill who. This person also moderates any disputes that come up. Generally after you kill someone you have to report it to the moderator so that they can keep track of what is going on.
There is usually a method that must be used to kill your target. For this I have seen many different versions, water from some kind of a squirting devise (ie a water gun, though no WMD’s are allowed ie. water hoses), nurf stuff (basically anything nurf can be used), or even bananas (where you must touch your target with a banana, this has gotten rather creative with people using toy bananas, paper cut outs from yellow construction paper etc.). Personally I think that the water gun idea works best, I have seen people use empty cleaned out glue bottles, squirt bottles, water guns, syringes, and I have even been know to use an empty cleaned out Vaseline tube filled with water.
There can be no witnesses to the killing. Now this rule can vary dramatically, I have seen it be where no one who is playing the game can witness, to no one who is still a live and playing the game can witness, to where no one at all can witness, etc. It also varies with what constitutes witnessing, some say that no one can see you kill the person, but if they see the person when they are killed it is ok, where as some say that no one can even be in the same room, etc.
Once you are killed you can not say who killed you who you have killed or who you were suppose to kill when you were killed, simply stated dead men don’t talk. It is only permitted to say that you are dead (and even then sometimes it is not acceptable depending on the moderator and the rules).
When you are killed you must tell the person who killed you who your target was and that becomes their next target.
You can only kill your target; you may not pretend to kill someone just to have them tell you who their target is then say just kidding your still alive. This being said it is perfectly acceptable to take actions to make someone think that you are trying to kill them, but if you actually shoot them you can’t your dead or anything like that to make them think that they have been killed.
Some other rules that I have seen used that might apply here would be:
If using water guns and you shoot your killer (with the same restrictions about witnesses) then typically they can’t shoot you for a certain period of time. If using water guns (can you tell that is the primary way that we played) you don’t soak the target, you simply squirt them. Also only plain tap water is allowed, no soda, beer, wine, food coloring, etc. can be used. Also you must use a squirting devise so you can’t splash water on someone, squirt it out of your mouth, etc.
That is all that I can think of right now.
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Post by grant on Dec 16, 2005 11:31:59 GMT -5
While what I posted might not be what you want for the mystery party, it could work for a different party, or something to get togather for a long haul kinda thing doing if over a long period of time (which is how the game is usualy played).
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Post by Rabbit on Dec 16, 2005 11:39:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I would like to try this some time, even if we don't do it at the toga party (not to be confused with the tofu party).
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Post by Chad Manning on Dec 16, 2005 11:57:27 GMT -5
That would be cool for a more casual party, but for the Roman theme, first, you don't have guns, & second, it would come down to more of an action game and less of a mystery/roleplay party.
However, I would like to try this out. Maybe at another party....
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Post by grant on Dec 16, 2005 12:22:50 GMT -5
first, you don't have guns That is why I posted otehr methods of killing, we could go and pick up a bunch of cheep toy swords for people to use. second, it would come down to more of an action game and less of a mystery/roleplay party. Just sayin...some people in the group, and some people who have attended thse parties are just not really into the role-playing parties.
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Post by grant on Dec 16, 2005 12:23:58 GMT -5
Not that I am trying to push you away from doing the RP party, I am not trying to do that by any means...But rather just trying to throw out other options that we could do that everyone could partisipate in more and enjoy.
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Post by Rabbit on Dec 16, 2005 12:40:09 GMT -5
Hemlock is another way of killing people- poisin their drinks...just sayin as all.
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